“Ding an sich”

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As I may have mentioned in my last post from a couple months ago, I’ve been working on a series exploring my relationship with Neil from an outsider’s perspective. It’s a lot more difficult than I thought it would be. When I proposed the idea to a professor of mine, he thought it was great. I showed him a few shots that I had of Neil and he was eager to see more. I’ve been hesitant in photographing Neil for a number of reasons. The first, and most obvious reason: No one wants to see that shit. I mean, really. Who wants to look at a bunch of photographs of my boyfriend being an idiot? I definitely wouldn’t if I were you. The other reason stems from my freshman year of college when I first met Neil. I filled up roll after roll of 35mm film documenting my everyday life. Just a real real original project. Of course, most of it was either Cate or Neil. After developing all of the film and printing image after image of Neil’s face or belly, I started to feel less and less like a photographer. Not only was my professor and entire freshman year photo class sick of it, but so was Neil and more importantly, my parents (who pay the big bucks so I can go to this school). So I ditched the idea of ever photographing him again on a serious level. Both of us decided it was just lame.

Now, three years later, I’ve decided to revisit my relationship with Neil, but from a completely different perspective. I’m interested in the roles that people take on in their relationships with their significant others. I’ve decided to take an objective standpoint and view my relationship with Neil like I never have. In this series, I’ve started to photograph him taking on the “male” or “female” role in our relationship. Because he plays both, just as I do. Part of the project involves my position as a female in a male-female relationship. I play the ‘housewife’ (minus wife) role just as much as I play the man-who-comes-home-from-work-and-expects-a-drink-in-his-hand. There are times when I want to be the big spoon, and there are times when I want to be spooned.

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Some of it I’ll show, some of it I won’t. And I guess worse comes to worst, I can just throw it all in a “Cornelius Bloem” folder and it will remain on my hard drive for years to come.

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  • http://www.howcouldiknow.com Jessica Pierotti

    Liz, I think the portrait of Neil laying down is a very nice example of him in a subtly submissive position with you in control of the image while also being a part of it. I have never heard you talk about your work this way and really enjoy it. I can relate to the concept of a relationship crossing the traditional bounds of male-female roles and find this a fascinating thing to address photographically. It is always challenging to photograph those close to you, and to avoid it being a purely affectionate image. I am interested and want to see this unfold.

    Jess

  • http://www.howcouldiknow.com Jessica Pierotti

    Liz, I think the portrait of Neil laying down is a very nice example of him in a subtly submissive position with you in control of the image while also being a part of it. I have never heard you talk about your work this way and really enjoy it. I can relate to the concept of a relationship crossing the traditional bounds of male-female roles and find this a fascinating thing to address photographically. It is always challenging to photograph those close to you, and to avoid it being a purely affectionate image. I am interested and want to see this unfold.

    Jess

  • Graham

    I agree with Jessica all the way. But I also really enjoy the couch image as well as the boots. I think the others could fit in the larger scheme later on. Also, are you creating these scenes or photographing them as the appear to you? It might be helpful to create a list (my favorite thing to do) of places you see your relationship flirting these male/female roles. Keep on gurl.

  • Graham

    I agree with Jessica all the way. But I also really enjoy the couch image as well as the boots. I think the others could fit in the larger scheme later on. Also, are you creating these scenes or photographing them as the appear to you? It might be helpful to create a list (my favorite thing to do) of places you see your relationship flirting these male/female roles. Keep on gurl.

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    that means a lot, jess, thank you. i’m excited and a bit nervous to see how it will unfold. we shall see!

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    that means a lot, jess, thank you. i’m excited and a bit nervous to see how it will unfold. we shall see!

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    grahamy pants,

    i left out a couch image of him sleeping because i thought i’ve just taken too many of him sleeping. even though he looks angelic and incredibly androgynous, i left it out and didn’t feel like it worked with the rest of the project idea. it’s going to be hard to filter out those photographs, but i’m hoping feedback will help me with that.

    I’m photographing these scenes as they appear to me, none of it is staged or created by me. Actually, I’ve asked him not to read this post on Sunday and Wednesday because I don’t really want him knowing about the project. I feel like it might ruin it. All Neil knows right now is that I’m photographing him more than I have in years. I think he likes that. He’s incredibly comfortable with me, which is why I think this project has the potential to be successful. He can be very vulnerable in front of my camera. But as for right now, I haven’t told him the details of the project and what I’m really observing.

    I’m simply photographing my relationship with neil and trying to notice the things i have become so immune to. it’s the kind of “everyday action” that i take for granted, and I guess I never realized how beautiful some of it really is. i mean that in an artistic way… not as in “my boyfriend is beautiful” or “our relationship is beautiful.” I wouldn’t go THAT far.

    As for the list idea- it’s genius. I LIVE by making lists and crossing things off. I just talked to my mom recently about lists. That’s a pretty spectacular idea, but I’m not so sure it would fit with the spontaneity of the photographs. I take them as they happen and I like the challenge of stepping back and taking a look at the big picture (no pun intended). I have to literally take myself out of certain situations that would seem so normal to me and try to really capture them in the best way possible. Maybe later on after I’ve made those photographs I can begin to make a list.

    Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    grahamy pants,

    i left out a couch image of him sleeping because i thought i’ve just taken too many of him sleeping. even though he looks angelic and incredibly androgynous, i left it out and didn’t feel like it worked with the rest of the project idea. it’s going to be hard to filter out those photographs, but i’m hoping feedback will help me with that.

    I’m photographing these scenes as they appear to me, none of it is staged or created by me. Actually, I’ve asked him not to read this post on Sunday and Wednesday because I don’t really want him knowing about the project. I feel like it might ruin it. All Neil knows right now is that I’m photographing him more than I have in years. I think he likes that. He’s incredibly comfortable with me, which is why I think this project has the potential to be successful. He can be very vulnerable in front of my camera. But as for right now, I haven’t told him the details of the project and what I’m really observing.

    I’m simply photographing my relationship with neil and trying to notice the things i have become so immune to. it’s the kind of “everyday action” that i take for granted, and I guess I never realized how beautiful some of it really is. i mean that in an artistic way… not as in “my boyfriend is beautiful” or “our relationship is beautiful.” I wouldn’t go THAT far.

    As for the list idea- it’s genius. I LIVE by making lists and crossing things off. I just talked to my mom recently about lists. That’s a pretty spectacular idea, but I’m not so sure it would fit with the spontaneity of the photographs. I take them as they happen and I like the challenge of stepping back and taking a look at the big picture (no pun intended). I have to literally take myself out of certain situations that would seem so normal to me and try to really capture them in the best way possible. Maybe later on after I’ve made those photographs I can begin to make a list.

    Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

  • http://www.alyssamarzolf.com Alyssa

    i like all of these, liz. i especially like the top image of neil’s torso.
    i want to see more. maybe we can chat about shit we make sometime soon. i think it’d be stimulating to hear more about your process and what you’re thinking about with this project.

  • http://www.alyssamarzolf.com Alyssa

    i like all of these, liz. i especially like the top image of neil’s torso.
    i want to see more. maybe we can chat about shit we make sometime soon. i think it’d be stimulating to hear more about your process and what you’re thinking about with this project.

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    Alyssa,
    I had no idea you looked at Sunday and wednesday! Of course, I would love to discuss work with you. What kind of stuff have you been working on lately? Email me or something, unless you’re in town anytime- I miss ya girl. I miss all of you girls. I’m glad you like the work, though. Any feedback helps. There’s more of this project in my most recent post on sun&wed. Take a look!

  • http://www.lizhkaufman.com Liz Kaufman

    Alyssa,
    I had no idea you looked at Sunday and wednesday! Of course, I would love to discuss work with you. What kind of stuff have you been working on lately? Email me or something, unless you’re in town anytime- I miss ya girl. I miss all of you girls. I’m glad you like the work, though. Any feedback helps. There’s more of this project in my most recent post on sun&wed. Take a look!

  • Matt Kelley

    I would say don’t worry ever about photographing the person you are with. Of course I would say that but, the works not sappy it’s not lame, his comfort with you like you said above is a rarity, you aren’t going to get those same images with people who aren’t him. And people have been painting and drawing and taking pictures of people they are in love with for a long time.

    The last image is the coolest one I have seen yet I think. That one and the spooning green picture from above this post are my favorites. I like the boots one a little, but it could get sappy. Oh yeah I like the first image you showed too. I would also say don’t be afraid to stage or alter or go on photo shoots. Mix up the formats too – sometime you need something fast, sometimes not – that always helped when I was making work of Cate.

  • Matt Kelley

    I would say don’t worry ever about photographing the person you are with. Of course I would say that but, the works not sappy it’s not lame, his comfort with you like you said above is a rarity, you aren’t going to get those same images with people who aren’t him. And people have been painting and drawing and taking pictures of people they are in love with for a long time.

    The last image is the coolest one I have seen yet I think. That one and the spooning green picture from above this post are my favorites. I like the boots one a little, but it could get sappy. Oh yeah I like the first image you showed too. I would also say don’t be afraid to stage or alter or go on photo shoots. Mix up the formats too – sometime you need something fast, sometimes not – that always helped when I was making work of Cate.

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